Re: [PsoriaticArthritis] Liver Test

2007-03-31 20:29:33

Linda, sorry to hear about your liver tests. My mom has a serious liver disease
and her wonderful gastroenterologist likes ultra sounds because he can see a lot
about what is going on without doing invasive things like biopsies. I think it
is a good tool and you shouldn't be overly worried. Sounds to me like your doc
is doing the right thing for you.
Let us know how it turns out. Cheri in Pullman
lbschroeder <lbschroeder@...
My GP's nurse called today Friday) and advised me that my last blood test showed
my liver "?" were elevated. My GP scheduled an ultra sound of my liver done
first thing Monday AM.
I know several others on this list have undergone liver biopsies, but I do not
remember anyone having the ultra sound.
Any insight into what the elevation means concerning my liver, and what the
ultra sound might show?
Any particular meds that cause the liver problems?
Oddly enough I had been complaining about a pain in my abdomen and found out
today that is the location of my liver. It just aches all the time, feels like
a hard rock.
Any info would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Linda in Poulsbo, Wa.
[Editor's Note: I don't remember which drugs you're on, but MTX and Arava come
to mind as two drugs that MAY cause liver problems. Please share the ultrasound
findings and liver panel readings with your rheumatologist and dermy. An
ultrasound shows more detail than an xray because the physician can direct the
ultrasound to very specific areas and watch the live action, while an xray is a
static photo. I'm sure the ultrasound will also be directed around your
stomach, gall bladder, intestines, kidneys as any one of these could cause a
hard rock pain. Please let us know what the findings are. We'll all be
thinking of you. Kathy F.]

Forgot name of balm

2007-03-31 15:59:22

I recently read someone on this list talking about some kind of balm that was
helpful for psoriasis. I don't remember the name.
Could someone help with the name and what it does/is?
Howard

Yeast ridden Body

2007-03-31 05:32:56

I reached a state of well-being thanks to this board. I rarely post,
but I read others daily.
Unfortunately, I failed to take probiotics as suggested and now I'm
spending most of my time on the yeast-connection board and still not
feeling well. I should have listened!
Sincerely, Rae

for Alana

2007-03-31 01:44:21

Hey, welcome Alana. My name is Leanne, I'm 34 and the mother of a
14y.o. boy who has PA. We live in George Town - Tasmania.
Are you doing anything today? It should be a big day, if you
live in Melbourne, go 'Makybe Diva'!
The group is great, and should be able to give you loads of
support and advice.
Speak to you soon
Leanne

Re: Query about ESR levels

2007-03-30 22:56:55

Hi there
I think the normal values are as below:-
ESR or Sed-Rate Male: 1 - 13 mm/hr, Female: 1 - 20 mm/hr
My ESR is now round about 14 since I started the remicade and mtx but
they also check the CRP. I think this also shows the level of
inflammation but I'm not sure about the details. Maybe somebody else
would know more. I don't know about PV though.
JakieD

Re: [PsoriaticArthritis] incontinance

2007-03-30 13:25:19

i had that problrm when i was on methotrexate . now that i am off it ..no
more problem.

Re: [rheumatic] I'm back!

2007-03-30 11:35:03

Hi Liz;
You were way too fast to give up.It took me the best part of 6 years
and several different AP approaches.Did you mean Mixed Connective Tissue
Disease? If so ,it has a lot of the same problems as Scleroderma and can
be just as dangerous.I was in big pain for the first 3 years and could
not tell if it was a herx or the disease as it was just misery.Starting
low dose is always wise.You can get tons of info at www.immed.org and
it was their approach to AP that worked for me along with some help from
www.sarcinfo.com.You have to be a detective and find what will work for
you.Persistance pays! Lynne G. /SD

Suggestions for meds after Remicade?

2007-03-29 23:46:46

I've been on Remicade for two years now with satifying results, but
as happens to almost all Remicade users sooner or later... I've
reached the point where my body is building up immunities making the
medicine less effective. I know I still have Enbrel and Humira to
try, but I was wondering if I could get some suggestions on what's
worked for someone else coming off Remicade and switching to the next
medication. I still add MTX (.6 weekly) and Indocin (daily) to the
Remicade (500cc every 8 weeks).
I know it's ultimately up to my Rhuemy, but if I could just get an
idea of what someone else has found effective, it might set my mind
at ease that the odds are favorable in finding similar pain relief.

RE: [rheumatic] Yeast ridden Body

2007-03-29 21:02:44

Hi Rae,
Sorry to hear about your problem but sometimes you get yeast even with
probiotics. Been ther done that (soft smile). I hope you are improving since
yeast systemically can be devestating. I myself was on Diflucan and nystatin
for a year. What is the site of the yeast connection board? Just curious.
thanks,
cooky

RE: [PsoriaticArthritis -To Mary from Fran--on Super MOM

2007-03-29 20:55:46

Dear Mary, thanks for writing. I agree that having the image of Super Mom
really can make one's life miserable. Believe it or not, at one point, I
had that image myself...lol. I figured out real quickly that having a
husband, children and a career, was an impossibility for me. I tend to be a
perfectionist and instead of doing my jobs well, I ended up doing three
things poorly. I was so miserable and that was before I was really ill.
Luckily, I was able to quit work for a few years when my children were
young. I know that time saved my marriage as well.
Mary, please don't think my pain is worse than your pain. Most likely you
suffer as much as me, if not more. We just have different types of pain to
face daily. I have to admit though, I would take years off my life to get
rid of this burning pain. I think the main problem is nothing medication
wise seems to touch it. I've got morphine to take for pain control and it
might as well be sugar pills for as much as it helps...very frustrating.
Thank God for cold gel packs...lol.
I'm reading a great book right now about dealing with chronic illness and
I'm only about 1/8 of a way into it, but so far it really has it home. It's
called, A Delicate Balance, Living Successfully with a Chronic Illness. I
got it on Amazon, for about $12.00. I know reading about health isn't
everyone's cup of tea, but I find things that really stick with me and help
me throughout the day. Sometimes all you need is a reminder to keep hope
alive. To me that's the hardest thing to give up and I'm just lost if lose
my hope. I know I make it sound like a physical thing, but for me it almost
has to be. Dealing with a chronic illness, day after day, year after year,
can become so frustrating and depressing, that I think anyone who is
rational is bound to think of giving up at sometime in their life. That's
where hope comes in and helps. I don't expect to be cured anymore, but
anything I can do to make my day or night easier, then I'm all for.
I hope..lol, things are going better for you Mary and you get some relief
soon. You shouldn't feel guilty about not being able to ignore or forget
the pain. That's almost impossible to do on a chronic level. It's one
thing if you have bad pain that you know is going to end, even labor has to
end at some point...lol. But when it's chronic it just wears you down
sometimes slowly and sometimes you just cant' seem to face another day of it
again. So your family needs to be aware of how you do cope and how even
the little things you do now are much bigger in the face of pain. Lets
face it, we really didn't have any idea of how to be a "super Mom" until we
got sick. Even doing the little things now, makes you a super mom in my
book. I have times when I get so upset that I can't do something that used
to be no big deal for me, whether it's cooking a dinner, or even holding a
book at night. Normally, I can go back over the day and list off what I
have actually accomplished and it's always more than I am giving myself
credit for. I think we are harder on our selves than anyone else.
Well I'm rambling on and on again. I sure hope your news is good on the
breast results. I'm like you that dealing with another set of problems is
overwhelming at times, but not facing them doesn't make them go away and
they normally only get bigger and harder to deal with as time goes on. You
are so smart to stop and deal with this now. I will go get a mammogram.
For one thing, I'm not setting a good example for my girls, and that's
something that is always number one in my book. Thanks for waking me up
and making me realize I need to take care of it and then it's something else
I've done for the day.
Let me know how things go ok, Mary. Take care and thanks for being so
sweet. Love, Fran
PS Orin listed the name of the condition that causes the chest pain and
inflammation...it's called costochondritis. No wonder I didn't remember
it...lol.

New Member, Recently Diagnosed, need some Advice...

2007-03-29 05:35:31

Hi again crystal,
The reason I was asking was because my P started about a month after I
started working in a semiconductor plant among all sorts of chemicals and there
has always been a little niggling wonder in my mind if the P could have been
triggered off by something like that. I know that it probably was not the case
but like I said, it niggles.
Thanks,
Martin

Re: [rheumatic] statins

2007-03-28 23:42:32

Another thing you should know about statins and this can be found it the
Physicians desk reference....statins will decrease the natural coenzyme q10 in
the body and therefore can contribute to future heart deficiencies. It is
recommended that a supplementation be taken at the same time as statins. For
your information, coenzyme Q10 is a prescription drug in Japan for heart
problems and high cholesterol and high blood pressure.
Kathryne
DrSc, MSc, Bsc

sorta off topic

2007-03-28 21:15:29

Hi everyone,
I have experienced fluid in my ears for many years. I have had tubes put in
a few times and they were great but at my age I am now producing lots of wax
which is lodging itself on the openings of the tubes. I also get a lot of
sinus problems.
I just had an inner ear infection (antibiotic resistant staph) in my ear. It
was so bad the ear drum ruptured and there was fluid coming out of my ear.
They told me its the type of strain that they have a problem with in
hospitals. Have been on Avalox for 10 days and have an app with the same ENT
that did the culture but not till next week.
I cannot hear a thing out of that ear yet. I was having hearing loss since
november due to fluid.
My question is ..does anyone have the same problem? Does anyone know any way
to get rid of the fluid, homeopathic or otherwise?
This problem also causes my eyes to feel dried out. As soon as I get an
antibiotic the eyes are fine.
I really hope someone can help me out since I am going nuts here :))))
cooky

RE: [PsoriaticArthritis] Feeling Leperous (A sort of Vent...as I'm Too Tired For a True Vent!)

2007-03-28 20:59:11

Dear Spotted Leper Woman,
I know how you feel since I have the same lovely form of PA. I know
compared to the horror stories I have heard on here, I feel bad even
complaining, but like you it can get really annoying at times. I had my
rash or what ever it is do exactly what you described one time and thank God
it was only one time...so far. Red, blistery, and filled with fluid. I
felt like a my legs were leaking...lol. Luckily, my bad spell only lasted
about a week and it's never come back. I'm hoping that's the only time I
have to deal with it that way.
Have you seen a dermatologist about your condition? The reason I ask, is so
many times I've been told I don't have Psoriases, but some sort of sun
damage from my childhood. The fact it developed and spread like crazy when
I got sick with PA doesn't seem to impress them either. My rheumy is
convinced it's guttate and right now that's enough for me. I've used the
dononex that people talk about, but all it seems to do is dry out my skin.
Right now Avenel seems to help the most with the itching. Does yours itch
very much? Mine drives me nuts at night and in the morning the most.
My nails look funny too. They have white lines running horizontally and sort
of look like the nail was smashed in a door. They get white lines and spots
all over them, but it seems to be under the nail. I also have trouble with
my cuticles at time. Do you notice that too?
Well it's a weird disease that keeps on giving. Everyday something new pops
up to keep us guessing and never bored. I could do with some boredom about
now. As annoying as all the psoriasis is, it's nothing compared to the
pain of the arthritis. So if I had to choose, I'd get rid of the arthritis
first.
Take care and hope it helps to know you aren't the only "spotted woman" on
the loose. Good luck with the new rheumy. Feel better, Fran

Re: Back and neck pain, and fatigue

2007-03-28 09:10:28

---
Hi Eric and welcome,
I also have the tireness along with my PA-it began before the Dr. put
me on MTX and now it is worse being on that medication. I also have
it in my back-but lower and middle back. My Rheumy said that PA
doesn't get into the back which left me confused!! I have an appt.
with him this Thurs. after I had x-rays so I'm curious about what
they will show.
God Bless, Sue in Michigan.

Re: [PsoriaticArthritis] Flu shot problems &amp; being good little sheep

2007-03-28 01:11:18

Hi Jo Ellen,
Sorry to hear you have been going through such a hard time over the last few
years.
The situation with Flu jabs over there does seem to be a bit of a nightmare
with lots of people having to do without in certain areas.
You wrote:
I have discovered that it is just another expensive chronic condition
where the price of the medication is highly inflated and they have us
(sheep) by the balls.
I must admit. That might take my mind of my Arthritis for a while. ouch! lol
Take care,
Martin

SS Disability

2007-03-28 00:10:55

There is a wonderful, step-by-step article in the November/December issue of
Arthritis Today Magazine about filing for Social Security Disability. Article
starts on page 79. Anyone currently going through the process or thinking about
filing should read this good article.
Good luck. Linda in Poulsbo, Wa.

Re: [rheumatic] Visit to Dr. Franco.

2007-03-27 19:57:03

I am replying direct with details.

Re: for Lina

2007-03-27 07:18:58

Hi again Micky,
Regarding MTX and the liver - it did effect my liver and I had to
stop taking it.
I wasn't taking it for very long, taking folic acid and not drinking
alcohol but I was one of those people it didn't agree with and it
has given me a permanent(?) legacy of a 'fatty' liver. Everyone's
different.
Suzie
(You wrote

FW: [PsoriaticArthritis] To Deluking...

2007-03-27 04:13:51

Dear Rae, I first sent this to the wrong member, Hope this email helps in
some little way. Love, Fran
Dear Rae , I'm sorry you feel so bad. It's so hard to be sick and still
have people doubt your very illness. I think it's one of the hardest
things to deal with, and something we surely don't need to struggle through.
All I can say on the home front is to somehow educate them to your problems.
I don't know if you are married, but if a family member goes with you tot he
doctor a lot of times that helps open up their eyes. Another thing is to
have them read the listings on this web site. Our members are great in
describing how PA takes over ones' life.
Do you have the list of pain tips I've posted from time to time? If you
don't and want me to send them to you, just let me know. I've posted them
so often here, I hate to drive anyone else crazy with them again. They
really did help my family to understand what a typical day is like in my
life. I put mine on the refrigerator where I knew no one would miss
it...lol. I told them all up front I wasn't looking for sympathy, just
compassion and understanding. I also go way out of my way, if someone does
me a small favor in thanking them. To me the little things mean the most,
like someone getting me another glass of water without my asking, or getting
my medication for me, when I'm having problems walking from room to room. I
know the big things in life can really get your down, like living with PA,
but the little things in life make it much easier to deal with.
You've got a hard job to have with a chronic painful illness. I'm pretty
sure I never could do what you do, even though I love babies and that part
of the job has to be just thrilling. The fact that you can keep on working
at such a hard physical job shows you are pretty strong and I hope you find
time to catch up on your sleep.
Complain here anytime! That's what we are for! At least you feel better
that someone heard and understands how you feel. Take care and hope you are
feeling better soon. Have fun with all those beautiful babies. Love, Fran

Re: [rheumatic] sorta off topic

2007-03-26 21:59:17

Hi Cooky;
I vaguely have a feeling that A Friend at the Roadback site saying
something about something similar.Do a posting there and you might get
some help. Lynne G/SD

RE:Janet's kind words, Hurricanes, and the Cleveland Clinic.

2007-03-26 12:14:44

Dear Janet, I wasn't going to reply to anyone today, since I"m leaving for
the Cleveland Clinic tonight and have a million things to do. As is typical
of me, I left it all till the very last...lol. Your email really touched
me and I want you to know that I think you are very important to our group
too. You have a lot more knowledge than me and seem very logical minded
about the issues. I always trust your advice.
My youngest who has the fibro so bad is now 21. She had a rocky start
moving out simply because she got sick right away, which is so typical for
her if she goes through any changes or any sort of stress. She just loves
school though and that's what was so damn frustrating about high school.
You expect to deal with educated people at a school, but I found out that
doesn't always work that way. Some of the things we went through were just
unreal looking back on them. I was trying to keep things as normal for my
daughter as possible or I know I would have sued the school system and I
have never even threatened to sue someone in my life. But I feel like she
rose about it all and the strange thing is she wants to be a teacher. She
feels like there are a lot of children out there that fall through the
cracks and she wants to be able to help some of them, because she felt so
alone during all her problems. I think she'll be wonderful at it, if she
can handle the hours again. Since so much of school is on the internet now,
there is always that possibility and she has lots of experience already in
that area. Still being her Mom I worry. She went with me to my last pain
management appointment. My doctor there told her not to blame any new or
strange symptom on fibro. He is worried that she is really at risk for PA
or RA, and he feels like too many doctors just throw the name of Fibro on
patients. I told him all we went through getting her diagnosed in the first
place, but he was still concerned. My other daughter has been told the same
thing recently and she is basically healthy. She worries me though because
she has aches and pains on and off and doesn't say much about them, so I
won't worry. She is 23 and has so much energy I feel energized just being
around her. My oldest is the one taking me to the Clinic tonight.
I'm so lucky with both my girls. They are both my best friends and both are
wonderful people. Of course, they don't get along, that would be just too
perfect...lol. I guess they are just too close in age and I tried
everything to make them friends and finally just figured they had to decide
that one on their own. They both have been just wonderful since I've been
ill, and I've worried that it has put too much stress on them. It's not how
I planned on life treating me, but then done of us counted on getting this
dreaded disease. I"m just grateful that Arava is helping me now and hope it
continues to help.
Well Janet, it looks like we lucked out on this hurricane again...now we
just have to miss the next one...lol. You have to laugh or you'd go
nuts...I'd better go and start packing. Thanks again for the sweet words
and I'll let you know what they tell me at the Clinic. I hope they can help
me, but I sure don't want to find something else is wrong with me either.
Take care, Love, Fran

Re: Flare &amp; new meds

2007-03-26 06:53:44

Hi Amy,
My, how you have so fittingly described a flare - it is exactly the
same as for me - when my knuckles (closest to my hand) are in a bad
flare my hand is like a claw, i.e. I cannot fully open it. It does
not away when the flare subsides, thankfully. As for damage to the
bones, I am no expert but touch wood, so far so good. What I
believe (though I may be wrong so I suggest making a list of
questions for your rheumy so you can ask him/her) is that the
inflammation around the joint(s) is constricting the tendons/muscles
which in turn causes the clawing effect. As for the sulpha...zine,
I am allergic to sulpha but last year I spent 7 weeks in the
arthritis ward of a rehab hospital here in Vancouver and quite a few
other patients were taking sulpa.... and were quite happy with it.
I hope this helps. Take care and good luck with those hands of
yours.
Karen
PS: I love washing dishes because the warm soapy water is so
soothing.... just a thought.
K

Re: [PsoriaticArthritis] For Pat...

2007-03-25 23:12:03

Dear Pat...
Best of luck on the rest of your life!!
As they say, "when one door closes another opens up". Sometimes change is so
hard (and stressful), but it sounds like you have a great perspective and lots
of plans... I am sure the kids and the staff will miss you greatly, but here's
to YOU!!
Best Wishes,
Karen

Re: [rheumatic] herx reaction

2007-03-25 22:30:04

Kelly, this is from the FAQ on www.rheumatic.org. I suggest you print the
FAQ off and keep it handy. It should answer most of your questions
concerning this therapy.
6. EXPLAIN THE JARISCH HERXHEIMER REACTION.
This drug-induced flare reaction may occur within hours, the next day or
within the first weeks after the patient starts the antibiotics - or any
time there is a change in antibiotic or dosage. It is caused by a die-off of
organisms, which in turn create toxins that circulate in the body. This will
often cause a temporary worsening of symptoms. Patients may experience a
range of symptoms from mild fatigue and sleepiness to flu-like symptoms -
chills, low grade fever, night sweats, muscle aches, aching and swollen
joints, nausea, hives, skin rashes, depression and short term memory loss.
Hives and rash are sometimes mistaken for an allergic reaction.
If the Herxheimer reaction is severe, the medication may be stopped and a
small dose of prednisone (no more than 10 mg.) may be prescribed. When the
flare subsides, the medication is re-introduced at a slow rate.
When this Herxheimer reaction occurs, it is a good indicator that the
antibiotic is reaching its target - a very positive sign. The length of time
for this reaction varies from patient to patient. About twenty percent of
patients do not experience the Herxheimer reaction. Scleroderma patients
seem to experience the Herxheimer reaction less often than RA patients.
Oxidative therapy may be useful in reducing these symptoms. Garth Nicholson,
M.D., director of The Institute for Molecular Medicine in Huntington Beach,
California recommends peroxide baths (four 16 oz. bottles of 3% hydrogen
peroxide in 20 inch bath or Jacuzzi, with 2 cups of Epsom salt. Patients
soak in hot water plus the Epsom salt for five minutes until pores are open,
then add the peroxide solution. This should be repeated three times a week
at bedtime. No vitamins should be taken 8 hours before bath. The peroxide
can also be directly applied to the skin after a hot shower/tub. The
peroxide should be left on for 5 minutes and then washed off.
Another useful suggestion from Dr. Nicholson - blend one whole lemon, then
add 1 cup fruit juice or water and 1 tablespoon of olive oil. Strain and
drink liquid.
Far-infrared saunas have also been found helpful in removing toxins from the
body. Instructions for building an inexpensive far-infrared sauna can be
found at www.mercola.com or www.drlwilson.com.
It is very important to drink adequate amounts of water to flush the toxins
from the body - no less than two quarts a day. Water not only flushes the
toxins out of the system, but lubricates the joints and carries nutrients to
the cells. You also need to make sure you have two to three good size bowel
movements daily. Should constipation be a problem, try taking a rounded
teaspoon of pysillium (Metamucil or a generic) in 8 ounces of water, one to
three times daily. Drinking warm prune juice on first arising in the morning
is also helpful. If necessary, you may also add powdered vitamin C (to
tolerance) to the prune juice.

Re: [rheumatic] Pain Relief From Arthritis

2007-03-25 17:41:33

Maybe he could post the website so we may dismiss our concerns about
selling through our discussion group?
--

Effexor for pain?

2007-03-25 09:34:51

jerre:
Hi, I was reading your post and noticed that you took 'Effexor' for pain. I
just started taking it and I was wondering how long have you been taking it
and how much and does it work? I was, also, wondering why you take it for
pain if you are also taking Bextra. I am new with all this and I am trying
to make heads or tails out of all the different medicines available for P &
PA. Thanks for your time. Jo Ellen

Re: [PsoriaticArthritis] De-lurking

2007-03-25 03:02:13

Hi Rae,
Good to hear from you. Hope the Enbrel kicks in soon. I think I should be
starting on it within the next few days too.
Take care,
Martin

Re: [rheumatic] Harold

2007-03-24 22:30:27

Esther,
This was my post of 8/22/08:
Thank you for your valuable input. I have added it to the top of
http://www.tmgp.com/generic-mino.htm.
This bring up the issue of Minomycin, which is
brand name pelleted (or pelletized) Minocin sold
in New Zealand and other foreign countries. It is
substantially less expensive than Minocin in the U.S. For example, see
http://www.prescription-europe.com/Minocycline.htm
Their price is 69.57 for one hundred 100 mg capsules. This is $89.12 (U.S.)
Sincerely, Harald

Your kind words and my large chest experience!

2007-03-24 17:19:06

Hi again Fran,
Sorry, I sent you that last mail before reading this one.
Used to be, not any more. Running weight was around 67kg. I'm now around
79kg.
I tried to go on forever too but the body wasn't having it. lol
Take care,
Martin

Re: rarity of PA

2007-03-24 15:39:58

---
Hi Patti,
Thanks for writing back. I think you are right about not many in the
medical field has heard/seen PA-yesterday during my physical for my
surgery in Dec. the Physician Asst. told me that I was her first to
see PA-she saw the pain medications I was on and didn't realize that
most of them were for my PA and not my non-union right hip. She was
amazed with how much pain comes with this awful disease.
God Bless, Sue in Michigan.

Nurse Midwife

2007-03-24 09:37:52

Rae:
My daughter recently gave birth and used a mid-wife. I was wondering how
one goes about getting into to it. I am suppose it is best that you through
nurse school first. We have a new birthing center in town. Where in Montana
do you live? I have a cousin that recently moved to Kalispell, and I hear
it is beautiful up there. Thank you for your time.
Jo Ellen

Re: Other Aussies

2007-03-24 00:17:56

Hi Greg,
I'm in rural New South Wales Australia.
I wasn't diagnosed with PA until a couple of years ago but I have
had fibromyalgia for about 35 years - the two seem to go together
quite a bit.
I'm 49.
Suzie.

for Mary

2007-03-23 15:16:56

Mary,
I don't know what it is with Dr's. I think they get so bogged
down with coughs, colds, flus, infections etc. that when something
else comes along, they don't know how to manage it. In March, I took
my son to our Dr. with a sore, red inflamed toe. The Dr. didn't xray
it, he just said that Owen probably knocked it, and it was probably
fractured. I took him back in May, with the toe worse, made the Dr.
xray it, and there was virtually no bone left.So. off to an Ortho,
who did all kinds of scans, and diagnosed a form of bone cancer,
amputated the toe. Now here we are- every toe is bad, 1 thumb, 1 hip,
and his spine. In hindsight, if we had seen a Rheumy in March, maybe
my son could still walk. Who knows!
I do hope it settles soon, and I hope you have a good day
Leanne

READ: IMPORTANT: Access to bioidentical hormones is in jeopardy

2007-03-23 13:08:22

Earlier this week, the American Medical Association (AMA) passed a resolution
concerning compounded bioidentical hormones. The resolution asks FDA to
institute sweeping regulatory changes that may limit your access to or, if you
are a physician, your ability to prescribe compounded hormones. You can make
your opinion known to the AMA. Go to this link:
http://iacprx.convio.net/site/PageServer?pagename=P2C2
~Jeff

Re: [PsoriaticArthritis] Confirmation Use of joints provokes them

2007-03-23 03:21:19

Hi Mathurines and welcome to the group.
All I can say is that I personally try to use my joints as much as possible
without overdoing it.
Not using them at all could have just as bad an effect as overuse.
When you are going through a flare, the affected joints do feel as if they
will never be the same again but once you get through that it does ease off and
you can use them normally (hopefully) again. With most of us the
deterioration in joints has gone quite slowly although there are some where it
has
ripped through pretty rapidly.
Your best bet might be to get them to start you on Enbrel right enough as
this seems to be working wonders with a lot of the people on it or the other
biologics. Hopefully that will stop or at least delay any further joint damage.
As I said, this is just my personal opinion Mathurines. Others might say
differently but you should get plenty of advice over the next few months from
this group as they know what you are going through.
Good luck,
Martin

THYROID HORMONE THERAPY APPEARS TO CAUSE BREAST CANCER

2007-03-23 00:45:05

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THYROID HORMONE THERAPY APPEARS TO CAUSE BREAST CANCER
By Dr. James Howenstine, MD.
July 27, 2006
NewsWithViews.com
Medical journals and textbooks typically portray iodine as an unimportant
substance which should be taken in small amounts[1] because of it's
dangers.
Actually approximately one third of humanity has iodine deficiency.
When humans lack iodine the thyroid gland enlarges (goiter), nodules appear
in the thyroid gland and over a period of time cancer may appear in a
thyroid
nodule. Conventional medicine treats thyroid gland enlargement with thyroid
hormone without considering the possibility that the hypothyroidism and
goiter
may be due to lack of iodine. This failure to diagnose and treat iodine
deficiency can lead to an increased risk of breast cancer and the longer
the
diagnosis is missed the greater the chance that breast cancer will occur.
Women
taking thyroid hormone appear to be twice (12.1%) as likely to develop
breast
cancer as women not using thyroid hormone (6..2%). Women who had taken
thyroid hormone for 15 years had a 19.5% incidence of breast cancer whereas
women
who have only taken thyroid hormone for 5 years had only a 10% incidence of
breast cancer. Why is this?
The essential trace element iodine may be the most important least
publicized mineral in existence. Iodine is the only element needed in
hormones and in
the production of hormones. The iodine containing hormones are involved in
the creation of embryos, development of brain function, growth, metabolism
and
maintenance of body temperature. This means that proper amounts of thyroid
hormone, estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, insulin, growth hormone etc.
can
not be made when iodine is lacking from the body. One third of all
individuals on Earth are functioning with subnormal levels of iodine. Low
intake of
iodine is the leading cause for intellectual deficiency in the world.
There is strong evidence that iodine lack predisposes to breast cancer. One
out of seven women in the U.S. has deficiency of iodine proven by urine
iodine screening tests (urine I less than 50 ug/L). This is the same
incidence for
breast cancer seen in U.S. women. Without bothering to check urine for
iodine, physicians visited by a woman with a goiter or symptoms of
hypothyroidism
are routinely prescribing thyroid hormone therapy.
Hintze et al[2] compared the results of 400ug/L of Iodine with 150ug of T4
(synthyroid) for 8 months and then four months after stopping therapy. The
results clearly favored iodine therapy. Both treatments led to similar
suppression in the size of the goiter. However, four months later the size
of the
thyroid had returned to pre-treatment levels in the group treated with T4
hormone. The group who had received iodine therapy continued to have normal
sized
thyroid glands four months after therapy was stopped. Several investigators
have concluded that iodine lack is a probable cause for breast cancer in
women.[3] [4] [5] [6] [7]
Demographic studies in Japan and Iceland revealed that both countries have
a
high intake of iodine and low incidences of goiter and breast cancer. In
Mexico and Thailand where iodine intake is low there is a high incidence of
goiter and breast cancer.[8] Thyroid gland size measured by ultrasound is
significantly larger[9] in Irish women with breast cancer than control
women.
Administration of thyroid hormone to iodine deficient women appears to
increase the risk of developing breast cancer. In a group of women
undergoing
screening mammograms the incidence of breast cancer[10] was twice as high
in the
women taking thyroid hormone. for hypothyroidism (probably caused by iodine
lack) than in women not taking thyroid supplements. The mean incidence was
6.2% in controls and 12.1% in women on thyroid hormones. The incidence of
breast
cancer was twice as high in women taking thyroid hormone for more than 15
years (19.5%) compared to those on thyroid hormones for only 5 years (10%).
In the state of Michigan, during a period of iodine supplementation in
bread
(1924-1951) the prevalence of goiter diminished from 38.6% to 1.4%. Of
interest the incidence of breast cancer remained unchanged during this time
frame.
This information was used to suggest that iodine supplementation had no
effect on the incidence of breast cancer. However, Ghent and Eskin were
able to
show in women and female rats that the amount of iodine needed to protect
against fibrocystic disease of the breast and breast cancer was at least 20
to 40
times greater[11] than the iodine needed to control goiter.
In the 1960s mandated iodine containing dough was equivalent to the RDA of
150 ug per slice of bread. At that time the incidence of breast cancer was
only 1 in 20.[12] In the past 20 years the use of iodine supplementation in
bread was eliminated and a goiter producing substance toxic to the thyroid
gland
(bromine) was introduced as replacement for iodine. The risk for breast
cancer is now 1 in 8 and this risk is increasing by one percent[13] each
year. The
decision to replace iodine in an iodine deficient population with a
goitrogen was illogical lacking in common sense. The damaging effects of
bromine on
thyroid tissue also appears to contribute to the development of auto-immune
diseases in the thyroid gland (Hashimoto's thyroiditis).
The mammary glands have a trapping system for iodine similar to that of the
thyroid gland. The breasts effectively compete with the thyroid gland for
ingested iodine. This distribution of iodine to both breast and thyroid
gland in
pubertal girls explains why goiter is 6 times more common in girls than
pubertal boys. The disappearance of iodine into breast tissue in women
leads to
decreased ability to supply the thyroid gland with an adequate amount of
iodine. The development of a goiter in young girls indicates deficient
distribution of iodine to both breast and thyroid tissue. Treating such a
patient with
thyroid hormone is not sensible and appears to increase the risk of breast
cancer.
Study of radioiodine uptake in normals and women with fibrocystic breast
disease FDB reveals that the FDB breasts were able to take in 12.5% of the
iodine dosage compared to only 6.9% in normal breasts. This proves the
existence
of considerable iodine depletion in the breasts of women with FDB.
There is considerable evidence for an increased risk of thyroid cancer as
well as breast cancer in persons with iodine deficiency. Untreated iodine
deficiency leads to goiter, thyroid nodules and eventually some of these
nodules
become malignant. The decreasing intake of iodine has resulted in an
increase
in thyroid nodules and increase in thyroid cancer. In 2001 there were
19,500
new cases of thyroid cancer in the U.S. with 14,900 of these cases
occurring
in women.
Iodine has a role in promoting general well being as well as protecting
against infections, degenerative diseases and cancer. Iodine promotes the
normal
killing of defective and abnormal cells (apoptosis). Thus, iodine helps the
body's surveillance system to detect and remove abnormal cells.
Additionally,
the presence of iodine triggers differentiation away from the more
dangerous
undifferentiated type of cell toward normal cells. The presence of adequate
levels of iodine in the body (Japanese diet with lots of sea vegetables and
fish) reduces reactive oxygen species (ROS). in the body which decreases the
oxidative burden in the body This results in slowing of degeneration disease
processes and decreasing the risk of cancer.
Nearly every physician in the United States will reach for a prescription
pad to order thyroid hormone when he sees a patient with goiter or symptoms
of
hypothyroidism. This can be exactly the wrong thing to do if the patient
has
deficient stores of iodine. Insist on obtaining a 24 hour urine collection
for iodine to eliminate iodine lack as the cause for your symptoms (values
below 50 ug/liter are abnormal). Thyroid hormone therapy in the presence of
iodine deficiency increases the risk of breast cancer and probably thyroid
cancer
as well. Endocrinologist, Dr. Guy Abraham, formerly of the U.C.L.A.
Department of Endocrinology, is convinced that everyone needs to be on
iodine therapy
until their iodine stores have been fully restored. After this time frame
periodic intake of iodine will help insure that the many body functions
requiring iodine run smoothly.
A dosage of two tablets of Iodoral twice daily for three months followed by
one Iodoral tablet daily for a year will restore iodine stores for most
persons. At that point periodic taking of an Iodoral tablet daily one month
out of
4 to 6 months etc. will be adequate to maintain iodine stores. Iodine
stores
can be easily monitored by taking 4 Iodoral tablets (50 mg iodine) and
collecting a 24 hour urine sample for iodine content. If 80% of the
ingested
iodine is found in the urine collection the iodine stores are normal.
Iodoral can
be obtained from Optimox Corp. Torrance, Cal. To purchase a referral from a
health care practitioner is needed.
Footnotes:
1, Abraham, Guy F. et al Orthoiodosupplementaion: Iodine Sufficiency Of The
Whole Body pg 1
2, Hintze, G. et al treatment of Endemic goiter due to iodine deficiency
with iodine, levothyroxine or both:results of a multicentre trial. European
Journal of Clinical Investigation, 19:527-534, 1989
3, Eskin B et al Mammary Gland Dysplasia in Iodine Deficiency JAMA ,
200:115-119. 1967
4, Eskin B Iodine and Mammary Gland Cancer Adv. Exp. Med. Biol.,
91:293-304,
1977
5, Ghent, W. et al Iodine Replacement in Fibrocystic disease of the Breast
Can. J. Surg. , 36:453-460, 1993
6, Eskin B. et al Different Tissue Responses for Iodine and Iodidein Rat
Thyroid and mammary Glands Biol. Trace Element Research 49:9-19, 1995
7, Derry , D Breast Cancer and Iodine Trafford Publishing, Victoria B.C. ,
92, 2001
8, Finley JW., Bogardus, G.M., Breast Cancer and Thyroid Disease Quart.
Review Surg. Obstet. Gyn. 17:139-147, 1960
9, Smtyhe, P. , Thyroid Disease and Breast Cancer J. Endo. Int. ,
16:396-401, 1993
10, Ghandrakant, C. et al Breast Cancer Relationship to Thyroid Supplements
for hypothyroidism JAMA, 238:1124, 1976
11, Backwinkel, K., Jackson, A.S. Some Fearures of breast Cancer and
Thyroid
Deficiency Cancer17:1174-1176 , 1964
12, Epstein, S.S., Sherman, D. Breast Cancer Prevention Program Macmillan ,
NY. 1998 pg 5
13, Ibid
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rheumetoid

2007-03-22 20:11:44

i was just diagnoised with rhemetoid. i am 56 female what can i learn
and is there exercise i can do there is so much i need to learn it is
in my feet and hands hope some one help my name is donna
ritz7770000@...

Re: [PsoriaticArthritis] Heading to Enbrel...scared/excited/relieved/etc...

2007-03-22 14:43:20

Hi Dawn -I loved your post! I too am waiting to start
Enbrel and I can't wait. I was so excited at first
and, as you, I started to question whether it was
worth the risks. Soon after I had a really severe
flare. I have a lot of pain all of the time but that
flare was really bad and I knew then that taking a
chance to have some normal to my life again instead of
pain controling my life was far more worth the
possible risks.

Re: Starting at the top

2007-03-21 22:29:36

Hi Alice,
I'm so sorry that "No one at home gets it". I'm glad you are in this
group, we all need extra support to get through each day and if it
isn't coming from home then a support group is the absolute best
place to be!
I'll be hoping you a better understanding from the homefront and help
from your Doctor with your symptoms.
Hugs,
Chris(tine)

Re: De-lurking

2007-03-21 22:21:16

Hi Rae, I'll hope you extra strength and endurance and less pain
while your partner is on leave.
Hugs,
Chris(tine)

Re: language

2007-03-21 15:50:55

Hi Crystal - thank-you so much for replying to my silly question-
I really aprreciated it - I hope you are having a good day and that
you are relatively pain free
Sue

Re: [rheumatic] rheumetoid

2007-03-21 08:23:46

Welcome to the group Donna --
There is an excellant website -- www.roadback.org -- it talks
about the Antibiotic therapy that is used for RA -- also gives
you lots of information about other therapies and other RA
sufferers opionions of the therapies (which is what I liked
so much about the site). I am 37 -- I was diagnosed 5
years ago -- I have 2 small kids so I have to try the best
I can to keep going -- AP therapy (antibiotic) got my back
on the road to remission for my RA -- I also have FMS, diabetes,
HI, atshma, and some type of muscle apothy (they are trying to
diagonsed now) -- The thing is you need to learn all you can
about your disease -- education will help you decide the proper
treatment for you -- like for instance the first thing they put me
on was the sulfasalsadine -- had allergic reaction -- when to
methotrexate -- developed a peptic ulcer due to medicine --
also I took my on Friday night (2 kids, husband, full time job --
that is why I decided on Friday) anyway -- I would lose my
whole Saturday from extreme fatigue and just total sick feeling.
So, I started researching and found roadback.org -- live saving
for me -- I don't lose days due to meds now -- my RA and
sed rate is working its way back towards normal -- so that is
remission to me! Hope this helps -- keep your head up but
do educate -- most of the meds to treat RA are just pure toxins --
so read and learn more about the treatments. Good luck and
hope for pain free days!
Hollye

Re: [rheumatic] Muscle Cramps

2007-03-21 03:19:36

Serena,
There can be several reasons for leg cramps. I don't associate them with a
herx, but perhaps others have different experiences. I would make sure to
drink enough water and make sure you are getting enough calcium and
magnesium. Try some extra to see if that brings relief. Are you doing some
gentle exercises? Even when we are in pain it is helpful to do gentle
stretching and range of motion exercises to keep from "freezing up". For
the sole of the foot problem you could try a massage by rolling your foot
over a tennis or even golf ball. You can sit down while you do it and that
way have better control how much pressure to apply. There is a little trick
that works surprisingly well for my yoga students should they experience a
leg cramp. Press with the side of the index finger on the upper lip, right
under the nose. It sounds weird, but there is apparently a pressure point.
It won't hurt to give it a try.
I hope this helps,
Ute

Sally

2007-03-21 01:57:53

Hi Sally, no I'm not the Susie that you emailed in the past. I've only
lived in Oklahoma and Florida.
I agree that we are only responsible for ourselves. However, I really
need to know how to talk to my husband about what is ailing him. I
know all to well about "co-dependency" and where to draw the line. I
do have a "little" problem with alot of the psych crap that is thrown
at us on a daily basis. If my husband had an addiction, ie., I would
back off. I see him feeling extreme anxiety and blow off the handle
for absolutely no reason. So....I am concerned about him and I just
need to know what to say to him so HE can decide to get help or not.
I know how these diseases cause depression. My doc always says "the
scleroderma is playing with your mind". So...today....I will try to
stay busy and focus on good things.

vioxx/celebrex article from Denise

2007-03-20 14:03:30

Hello,
This is a follow up question to the article from Denise on the
recent NSAID studies.
Does anyone take diclofenac (voltaren, etc.)?
Will you continue to take it? Apparently it has been found to be
as harmful as Vioxx with regard to heart problems. My Dr. wants me
to continue on it.
I would really appreciate hearing from you if you are using it.
Thanks,
Pat

Greg

2007-03-20 10:53:29

Hey, How are you Greg?
It's really hard not to be upset by everything. I've had Owen
upset as well. You all have every right to be shattered. Big hug
again. Whatever happens, it will be alright.
Sleep deprivation is a nasty state of mind to be in. Are you
trying to doze during the day? The problem with that is you usually
wake up feeling worse for it. It's a really nasty cycle.
I don't know why all this shit happens, I suppose sometimes there
doesn't have to be a reason, but hold your head high, and continue
marching on, I know that doesn't help much.
We're thinking of you
Love Leanne

PSORIATIC ARTHRITIS NEWSLETTER NO. 73

2007-03-20 01:38:23

PSORIATIC ARTHRITIS NEWS AND VIEWS
VOLUME- 4 ISSUE- 15
October 31, 2004
PSORIATIC ARTHRITIS MEDICAL NEWS
Editorâs note: I am providing multiple articles from different sources
regarding the current Cox-2 controversy.
U. S. DOCTORS RECEIVE BEXTRA WARNING
Oct. 15, 2004 -- Bextra -- one of two U.S. approved Vioxx sister drugs --
may cause rare skin and heart side effects, its manufacturer today warned
doctors.
The warning comes in the wake of Merck's voluntary withdrawal of Vioxx. That
action came after a clinical trial confirmed that Vioxx increased patients'
risk of heart attack and stroke.
Since then, there's been an upsurge of attention on Bextra and Celebrex.
Like Vioxx, these drugs -- both made by Pfizer, a WebMD sponsor -- are in the
drug class of Cox-2 inhibitors. All these drugs are effective in relieving
arthritis pain. Because they have the same mechanism of action, a lot more
attention is being paid to whether these drugs might also increase heart risk.
Some doctors are now calling for more studies. They're worried that few
clinical trials of these drugs have looked at people with existing heart
disease.
Many arthritis patients also suffer or are at high risk of heart disease.
But so far, there's no hard evidence that Celebrex increases heart risk, says
Mitch Gandelman, MD, Pfizer vice president for worldwide medical, oncology,
and pain information.
"In Celebrex, we have much more data than with Bextra," Gandelman tells
WebMD. "We have a slew of studies. ⦠We have no knowledge from those studies
of
any heart safety issues with Celebrex. So we have a green light to move ahead."
To date, there's no evidence that Bextra increases heart risk in arthritis
patients without heart disease. But new studies of Bextra alone or in
combination with parecoxib raise a red flag. Parecoxib is an injectable Cox-2
inhibitor nearly identical to Bextra. It's approved in Europe -- but not the
U.S. --
for postoperative pain.
Pfizer today said it is warning doctors that new data from a recently
completed clinical trial -- together with a study published in 2003 -- show an
increase in "cardiovascular events" in patients undergoing heart bypass surgery.
Bextra is not currently approved in the U.S. for surgery patients.
"With Bextra, we have studies going out one year -- but we don't have as
much data as we do for Celebrex," Gandelman says. "Now we have data in coronary
artery bypass graft studies that there is some heart risk. But we feel this is
very specific to those patients and not indicative of the osteoarthritis or
rheumatoid arthritis populations."
Gandelman says that Bextra and Celebrex studies continue. He says the
company is also considering launching new theoretical studies -- to look at ways
the drugs might cause problems -- as well as practical safety studies. In
addition, he says, the company will continue to change the drugs' labels to
reflect new knowledge as it becomes available.
Since 2002, Bextra's label has warned patients that the drug may cause rare
but serious skin reactions. Now Pfizer warns that Bextra causes such reactions
more often than other Cox-2 inhibitors. The risk of these skin reactions,
Pfizer says, is greatest during the first two weeks of Bextra treatment.
What Arthritis Doctors Are Saying
On the front lines of the Vioxx/Cox-2 furor is Stephen M. Lindsey, MD, head
of the rheumatology department at the Ochsner Clinic in Baton Rouge.
"My physician assistant and I are in the trenches - we're the ones answering
all these phone calls," Lindsey tells WebMD.
What Lindsey is telling patients is simple: Don't get too hysterical. Not
everybody who took Vioxx - and not everybody who is taking Bextra or Celebrex -
is going to have a problem.
"It's not like everybody is going to keel over from a heart attack," Lindsey
says. "Certainly when patients get into their 60s and 70s, arthritis and
heart disease run together. Those are the kind of people who, with all this
information coming out, would be smart to see their doctor and make sure they
are
being treated properly for heart disease before taking one of these [Cox-2]
drugs. But people, who are young, with no heart risks, don't necessarily have
to worry if they are on Bextra or Celebrex."
No single arthritis drugs works for every patient. Some patients, Lindsey
says, are lucky. They get relief from the first thing they try: Tylenol,
perhaps, or maybe Aleve. Others run through many different medications before
finding one that works. If the only thing that works for a particular patient is
a
Cox-2 drug, it's probably a good idea for that patient to be sure to keep his
or her heart risk low.
And, Lindsey says, not everyone with arthritis needs a drug
"I always emphasize that for people with mild arthritis, there are a lot of
things to try before prescription drugs," he says. "Try exercise, weight loss,
Tylenol, over-the-counter supplements like glucosamine, or oils like omega-3
fatty acids. A lot of these simple measures might be work without having to
worry about drugs with more toxicity."
SOURCES: Stephen M. Lindsey, MD, head of rheumatology department, Ochsner
Clinic Foundation, Baton Rouge. Pfizer news release, Oct. 15, 2004. Mitch
Gandelman, MD, vice president for worldwide medical, oncology, and pain
information, Pfizer, New York. Ott, E. Journal of Thoracic and Cardiovascular
Surgery,
June 2003; vol 125: pp 1481-1492. © 2004 WebMD Inc. All rights reserved.
************************************************
PFIZER WARNS OF ARTHRITIS DRUG HEART RISKS
Anti-inflammatory Bextra in the same class as Vioxx
NEW YORK - Pfizer Inc. on Friday said two small clinical trials showed heart
bypass surgery patients taking Bextra, an anti-inflammatory in the same
class as the recently withdrawn drug Vioxx, had a higher risk of stroke and
heart
attack.
Bextra is approved to treat pain from arthritis and, like Merck & Co.âs
Vioxx, is a COX-2 inhibitor. A recent trial showed Vioxx doubled the risk of
heart attack and stroke in arthritis patients who took the drug for more than 18
months.
The Vioxx withdrawal has cast a cloud over the entire class of COX-2
inhibitors, which includes Bextra, Celebrex and an experimental drug from
Novartis
AG called Prexige.
However, Pfizer said that following the Vioxx withdrawal it re-examined its
clinical database of 8,000 patients with rheumatoid arthritis and
osteoarthritis and found no increased risk of so-called heart events in
patients taking
Bextra for up to a year. The company also found no increased risk in a trial
of patients taking Bextra in a general surgery setting.
Doctors said it is too early to quantify the potential risk of Bextra or of
Pfizerâs other COX-2 inhibitor Celebrex as neither have tested for long
enough. Pfizer said it is conducting longer-term trials in arthritis patients.
The coronary bypass trials are ones that Dr. Eric Topol of the Cleveland
Clinic Foundation and an early and outspoken critic of Vioxx, said he finds
concerning as they show a cluster of heart attacks and strokes. But he said the
danger signal does not appear to be as strong as it was with Vioxx.
âCelebrex and Bextra do appear safer than Vioxx but whether they are really
safe, especially in patients with heart risk, thatâs an open question,â
Topol
said.
Pfizer also said it is updating its label on Bextra to strengthen a warning
about a rare but serious skin reaction that can occur mainly within the first
two weeks of therapy. Copyright 2004 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved.
****************************************************
SAFETY OF ALL COX-2 DRUGS QUESTIONED
Expert says they work on same heart mechanism as recalled Vioxx
By E.J. Mundell - HealthDay Reporter
FRIDAY, Oct. 8 (HealthDayNews) -- A week after drug giant Merck & Co.
withdrew its arthritis drug Vioxx from the market, doubts are being raised about
the safety of the two other approved medications in this class, Bextra and
Celebrex.
In an article released Thursday by the New England Journal of Medicine, an
expert with a long history of research in the cox-2 inhibitor class of
medications said cardiovascular problems seen with Vioxx might yet surface with
the
other two drugs.
The problem, said Dr. Garrett A. FitzGerald, is that all cox-2 inhibitors
suppress the production of a heart-protecting fat called prostaglandin I2.
"Vioxx, Celebrex and Bextra all have the same effect on this biochemical
system. Therefore, until proven otherwise, evidence would suggest that this
mechanism would involve all drugs in this class," explained FitzGerald, who is
chairman of pharmacology at the University of Pennsylvania's Institute of
Translational Medicine and Therapeutics.
After halting a study suggesting that long-term Vioxx users faced double the
risk of heart attack or stroke compared to non-users, Merck announced Sept.
30 it was pulling the drug from markets worldwide.
A day later, Pfizer Inc. -- Merck's main rival in the billion-dollar
arthritis medication market -- issued a statement defending its biggest cox-2
drug,
Celebrex.
Citing a number of ongoing, long-term studies, Pfizer's president of
worldwide development, Dr. Joe Feczko, said, "the data we've accumulated over
time
demonstrate that Celebrex does not increase the risk of serious cardiovascular
events in patients with arthritis and pain, even at higher-than-recommended
doses."
One top U.S. Food and Drug Administration official echoed those sentiments.
Dr. Steven Galson, acting director of the FDA's Center for Drug Evaluation and
Research, told reporters at a press conference last week that cox-2
inhibitors other than Vioxx "do not have this same incidence of heart attack
and
stroke in clinical trials. There is a real difference in the data."
But FitzGerald said he remains uneasy.
"Back in 1999, we performed studies on Celebrex and Vioxx, and we showed
that they had an effect on the same mechanism whereby they relieved pain and
inflammation," he explained. That mechanism -- inhibition of an enzyme called
cyclooxygenase-2 -- leads to reductions in lipids called prostaglandins.
These prostaglandins "are responsible for pain and inflammation, and they
also protect the stomach" so Vioxx users got needed relief without the
gastrointestinal upset often associated with other pain relievers, FitzGerald
explained.
Unfortunately, prostaglandins, especially prostaglandin I2, "are also
responsible for protecting the heart," he added.
The bottom line, according to FitzGerald, is that as cox-2 drugs soothe
arthritis pain and reduce risks for gastrointestinal symptoms, they may also
raise cardiovascular risks over the long term. That turned out to be the case
with Vioxx.
But what about long-term use of Celebrex, or the other Pfizer cox-2
inhibitor, Bextra?
Right now, "we just don't have a handle on 'how long is long,'" FitzGerald
said. "In the [Vioxx] trial, nothing much happened to patients for a year, and
then things started to come apart. But maybe with other drugs, other
circumstances, or in other types of patients, it may be two years, three years
--
who knows?"
FitzGerald believes that, given the failure of Vioxx, "the burden of proof
has now shifted" to Pfizer and the FDA.
He also believes the time has come for the FDA, especially, to take the
lead. "I'd really like the FDA, in short order, to give us some advice one way
or
another, based on their best guess, as to what people at high cardiovascular
risk should do," FitzGerald said.
The FDA faced much harsher criticism in a second article released in the
same journal. The journal's editors released the articles -- originally
scheduled for Oct. 21 publication -- early because of concerns surrounding the
use of
Vioxx.
In that second report, Dr. Eric J. Topol, a cardiovascular expert at the
Cleveland Clinic Foundation, says his team reviewed the available data on Vioxx
and Celebrex as far back as 2001, and at that time strongly recommended "a
trial specifically assessing [the] cardiovascular risk and benefits of these
agents."
He claims that although the FDA had the power to order such a trial, "it
never took the initiative," while at the same time letting Merck spend more than
$100 million in direct-to-consumer ads promoting Vioxx.
In the meantime, he writes, "tens of thousands" of patients taking Vioxx may
have suffered heart attacks or strokes linked to their use of the drug.
And on Thursday, Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) alleged that the FDA tried
to suppress a top safety official in the agency who raised concerns over the
safety of Vioxx.
David Graham, associate science director of the Office of Drug Safety, told
Grassley that agency officials "ostracized" him and subjected him to "veiled
threats" as he tried to have his study cleared for publication, the Washington
Post reported. When another top FDA official suggested "watering down" the
report, Graham said in an e-mail: "I've gone about as far as I can without
compromising my deeply held conclusions about this safety question."
Grassley made the accusations in a press release, which also said, "Instead
of acting as a public watchdog, the Food and Drug Administration was busy
challenging its own expert and calling his work 'scientific rumor,'" according
to the Post account. An FDA spokesman told the paper the allegations were
"baloney."
"I believe that there should be a full Congressional review of this case,"
Topol wrote. "All the facts can and should be scrutinized closely in a
Congressional review in order to avert such a catastrophe in the future."
SOURCES: Garrett A. FitzGerald, M.D., chairman, pharmacology, Institute for
Translational Medicine and Therapeutics, University of Pennsylvania,
Philadelphia; Oct. 1, 2004, statement, Pfizer Inc.; Oct. 1, 2004, press
conference,
U.S. Food and Drug Administration, Rockville, Md.; Oct. 21, 2004, New England
Journal of Medicine; Oct. 8, 2004, Washington Post
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ARTHRITIS PATIENTS TRY MEDITATION FOR PAIN
Stress-relief technique may reduce need for medication - The Associated Press
BALTIMORE - Dalia Isicoff knows pain. A lifelong sufferer of rheumatoid
arthritis, she has had seven hip replacement surgeries.
Since leaving the hospital in February following her latest operation,
however, she hasnât taken any painkillers. Not because the pain isnât there
â it
is. But Isicoff, 52, said she has learned to accept the pain, the disease, and
herself, thanks to meditation.
âWhen you have an illness like this, what one tends to do is say, âOh, my
God! Here we go again, this is going to render me disabled, Iâm going to wind
up in a wheelchair!â and you rush to the medicine cabinet,â she said.
âThis
has allowed me to have the patience to deal with these flare-ups and become
relaxed enough so the need for pain medication is almost not there.â
The 52-year-old Clarksville resident said meditation has made her symptoms
less severe, helping relieve stress that she said made the condition worse.
âWith this type of approach, you learn to acknowledge you have pain and, by
realizing it and by being in this relaxed state, the pain is less,â she said.
Researchers at the University of Maryland School of Medicine in Baltimore
are studying others like Isicoff to see if meditation helps sufferers of the
autoimmune disorder, which affects about 2.1 million Americans, mostly women.
Those with the disease often have general fatigue, soreness, stiffness and
aches at first. Joints may swell and become damaged over time.
'Mindfulness' technique counters stress
Groups of rheumatoid arthritis patients are being trained in âmindfulness,â
a form of stress reduction meditation developed 30 years ago at the
University of Massachusetts. Their progress is being compared to patients not
in the
program.
Mindfulness is similar to many meditation techniques. Participants are
taught to focus on breathing to quiet the mind and become aware of the moment.
The method has been used successfully to help patients with chronic pain
from a variety of conditions, but this marks the first time it is being studied
to see if it can help the physical and psychological symptoms of rheumatoid
arthritis patients, said Lisa Pradhan, one of the study leaders for the
University of Marylandâs Center for Integrative Medicine.
Evidence suggests flare-ups of the disease are associated with stress, she
said.
Thirty-six patients took an eight-week course that started in March. Results
from the first group are not available yet, but âthe people who have come
through the study have been very pleased to have been involved with it,â
Pradhan said.
Trish Magyari, director of the mindfulness program, said participants are
taught to âquiet the mind and feel more connected to your body.â
Isicoff said she tries to meditate in the morning and at night, although
mindfulness can be as simple as being aware of feeling the wind on your skin.
Such a simple process, however, can be difficult to put into practice, she
said.
âMost of us have this crazy internal dialogue,â she said. âFor me, it was
difficult to say, âI want to relaxâ and, âI donât want to think.â You
learn
to be an observer of the thought. Itâs sort of best to acknowledge it: âOh,
there you are,â thereâs a judgment, thereâs an angry thought, and the
moment
you acknowledge them, they go away.â
Eventually, she said she learned to be patient â with herself and the
situation.
âYes, I have the arthritis and the suffering, but it doesnât have to be so
negative, so devastating, focusing on that thing day in and day out and not
knowing, not believing that it can get better,â Isicoff said.
âYou learn to cultivate other areas of your life that are there, that are
untapped. When someone is in that frame of mind you can handle anything, you can
be more compassionate. You donât put yourself down so much; you donât have
to struggle with yourself trying to be perfect.â © 2004 The Associated
Press.
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BAROMETER TIED TO ARTHRITIS FLARE-UPS
By Janice Billingsley - HealthDay Reporter
MONDAY, Oct. 18 (HealthDayNews) -- For years, arthritis sufferers have
insisted that changes in the barometer and cold weather worsen their joint pain,
and now new research backs them up.
"We see this all the time with our patients. People swear to their grave
that the weather affects their arthritis," said Dr. Sam Lim, a rheumatologist at
the Emory University School of Medicine in Atlanta. "But this is the first
time we have nice, independent data that seems to correlate one with the
other."
The researchers began by examining two separate sets of data -- one
consisting of weather reports, and one of arthritis sufferers' pain reports. The
scientists found that when they matched the weather to the ZIP codes of the
patients, there was a strong correlation between changes in barometric pressure
and increased knee pain. To a lesser extent, cooler temperatures were also
associated with an increase in pain.
Results of the study were presented Oct. 17 at the American College of
Rheumatology annual meeting in San Antonio, Tex.
The study's lead investigator, Dr. Timothy E. McAlindon of Tufts-New England
Medical Center in Boston, said previous research efforts that have tried to
document a link between weather changes and arthritis symptoms had been
undermined by people's strong opinions on the matter; those biases influenced
the
reports. But by relying on sets of data that were independent of each other,
the new study allowed the scientists to conduct a "robust" review that really
does suggest an association between weather and aches and pains, he said.
Lim added, however, that it's important to note that, while the new research
shows an association between weather and pain, "it doesn't mean that the
weather changes cause an increase in pain. That's the next step."
For the study, the researchers merged data from an online glucosamine trial
(a large-scale study of an over-the-counter arthritis treatment) with National
Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) weather data. The glucosamine
study, which was conducted across 41 states from 2000 to 2002, tracked 205
arthritis patients who reported on their arthritis pain for a three-month
period.
Only after the study was completed did McAlindon and his colleagues begin to
look at weather patterns where the study participants lived. The scientists
first identified the nearest weather station by ZIP code for each of the study
participants. Then they examined daily weather reports from NOAA that
identified the temperature, barometric pressure, rainfall, and dew points for
the
locations of each of the participants for the three months they took part in
the study. The scientists averaged the weather reports from one, three, and
seven days prior to each person's report of pain, and then looked for any
change in each measure in the 24 hours before each pain report.
They found that changes in barometric pressure had a strong association with
knee pain, as did cooler temperatures, although to a lesser extent. Rainfall
and dew points had no significant associations, the researchers said.
SOURCES: Timothy McAlindon, M.D., M.P.H., chief, Division of Rheumatology,
Tufts-New England Medical Center, Boston; Sam Lim, M.D., assistant professor of
medicine, department of rheumatology, Emory University School of Medicine,
Atlanta; Oct. 17, 2004, presentation, American College of Rheumatology annual
meeting, San Antonio, Tex.
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CANCER DRUG MAY HELP FIGHT ARTHRITIS
Medication could offer targeted treatment for disease - The Associated Press
For the first time, a drug has relieved rheumatoid arthritis by knocking out
a certain type of immune cell â an approach that could open the way for
precisely targeted, âsmartâ treatments for the joint disease and other
illnesses, too.
Other arthritis drugs on the market either treat just the symptoms, or
employ a broader, more scattershot effect against the underlying process. Such
drugs can have toxic side effects because they kill healthy cells along with the
diseased ones.
The latest research, an international study led at University College London
and published in Thursdayâs New England Journal of Medicine, looked at a
drug called rituximab, and the results were promising.
'A new era of targeted biologic therapies'
âI think this is a pivotal study,â said Dr. John Klippel, president of the
Arthritis Foundation. âThis is opening up a new era of targeted biologic
therapies for rheumatoid arthritis.â
In rheumatoid arthritis, antibodies misdirect friendly fire against the bodyâ
s own joint linings. Joints become inflamed, swollen and painful. More than
2 million Americans, mostly women, have the disease.
Rituximab, which is sold under the brand name Rituxan and is already
approved for non-Hodgkinâs lymphoma, targets B cells, which manufacture these
antibodies.
The researchers compared rituximab to other drugs in 161 patients with
arthritis.
For two weeks, patients took rituximab alone or in combination with two
other drugs: the standard drug, methotrexate, and the less widely used
cyclophosphamide. Another group took methotrexate alone. Roche, a distributor of
rituximab, funded and participated in the study.
After six months, more than 40 percent of patients who took rituximab
combinations were greatly improved. One-third of patients on rituximab alone
were
greatly improved. But only 13 percent of those on the standard drug alone
improved that much.
âOne of the things that are truly unique is that a very short course appears
to have a very long-lasting effect,â Klippel said.
Similar approaches being tested
Some doctors, including the studyâs authors, said rituximab needs more
testing before any widespread use. They said other B-cell-killing drugs are
under
development and could eventually outperform rituximab.
Researchers are also testing similar targeted approaches against lupus,
multiple sclerosis and other autoimmune diseases.
Both methotrexate and cyclophosphamide are sometimes employed as
chemotherapy drugs and attack a broader range of tissue than rituximab. The
newer drug
kills close to 90 percent of B cells, which the body then replenishes with
healthy new ones.
Rituximab is one of the most narrowly aimed and efficient members in the
modern family of targeted drugs that include the breast cancer treatment
Herceptin.
Of all the tested treatments for rheumatoid arthritis, âit goes closest to
the root of the disease,â said the studyâs lead author, Dr. Jonathan Edwards
of University College London.
However, the drug could pose a danger of chest infection, especially if
given repeatedly, Edwards said. One rituximab patient in the study died of
pneumonia, though it was not clear if the drug was responsible. © 2004 The
Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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CHOLESTEROL DRUGS MAY FIGHT ARTHRITIS
Statins helped reduce swelling in three joints, study finds - Reuters News
Service
LONDON - Cholesterol-lowering drugs, already widely used to cut the risk of
heart attack and tipped as a prevention for some cancers, may also help fight
rheumatoid arthritis, scientists said..
Researchers from the Glasgow Royal Infirmary in Scotland found a small but
statistically significant improvement in arthritis symptoms in patients given
40 mg of Pfizerâs Lipitor daily in addition to standard arthritis medication.
The news underscores the reputation of cholesterol-lowering statins -- the
worldâs top-selling drug class with global sales of $22 billion a year -- as
potential wonder pills.
Already hailed for revolutionizing the management of heart disease, statins
are also being studied in the fight against multiple sclerosis, Alzheimerâs
disease, glaucoma and osteoporosis, as well as in preventing various forms of
cancer.
The new study reported in The Lancet, which involved 116 patients randomly
allocated to receive Lipitor or a placebo for six months, was the first
controlled trial of a statin in rheumatoid arthritis.
Reduction of swelling
It adds to a growing body of evidence that statins could have important
anti-inflammatory properties, since rheumatoid arthritis is a disease
characterized by chronic inflammation of the joints.
âThe clinical benefit is modest ... but there is a hint that something is
happening,â Professor Iain McInnes, one of the researchers behind the study,
told Reuters.
His team found patients on average reported a reduction of swelling in three
joints -- significantly less than the 6-8 joints relieved with modern
rheumatoid arthritis drugs, known as TNF blockers, which must be given by
injection.
Most patients entering such trials have an average of 12-15 swollen joints
at the start.
Although the symptomatic benefits may be limited statins could still become
an important future part of treatment since rheumatoid arthritis sufferers
have an inherently higher risk of heart attack and stroke.
A drug that can relieve swelling while cutting cholesterol could therefore
prove a winner.
âAlthough of limited size and short term, their findings support the use of
atorvastatin (Lipitor), and presumably other statins, to prevent
cardiovascular disease in patients with rheumatoid arthritis,â Lars Klareskog
and Anders
Hamsten said in an accompanying editorial.
McInnes and his colleagues now plan to conduct a large-scale clinical trial,
lasting three to five years, to see whether adding statins to standard
treatment improves the survival of rheumatoid arthritis sufferers. Copyright
2004
Reuters Limited. All rights reserved.
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PSORIASIS MORE THAN COSMETIC - Food and Drug Administration, author Linda
Bren
It's not easy living in Leah Bird's skin. "The worst thing is when people
just stare," says Bird. "I almost like it better if someone comes up to me and
asks me what it is."
Then she'll tell them, "I have psoriasis. It's not contagious."
Bird, 51, of suburban Boston, has had flare-ups of this chronic skin disease
since she was a teen-ager. The dry, red, scaly patches of skin that
characterize psoriasis have covered as much as 85 percent of her body, she says.
"It
alarms people. It looks very scary to people who don't know what it is."
But psoriasis is more than cosmetic. "This disease is common, chronic, and
costly, both in monetary terms and in quality of life," says Jonathan Wilkin,
M.D., director of the Food and Drug Administration's Division of Dermatologic
and Dental Drug Products.
More than 5 million Americans have psoriasis, and they spend between $1.6
billion and $3.2 billion each year to treat the disease, according to the
National Psoriasis Foundation (NPF). Between 150,000 and 260,000 new cases are
diagnosed each year, including 20,000 in children younger than 10.
"Psoriasis can be painful and can be profoundly disruptive to a person's
life," says Jill Lindstrom, M.D., an FDA dermatologist. "People who don't have
it don't understand how burdensome the disease can be. There is constant
shedding of scales. There can be functional impairment, itching, and pain." And
health complications, such as arthritis, accompany some cases.
There is no cure for psoriasis, but a broad range of treatments is available
to reduce the symptoms, clear up the skin, and send the disease into
remission. FDA-approved treatments range from creams rubbed into the skin, to
lasers
that aim ultraviolet rays at the skin, to the newest treatments--injectable
drugs made from living cells.
Emotional Impact
For many people, dealing with the emotional impact of psoriasis can be as
challenging as treating the disease.
Bird says that mothers have pulled their children away from her on the
subway, and some people, horrified by her skin lesions, have asked her if she
has
AIDS. As her disease has evolved over 30 years, so has Bird's way of dealing
with these reactions. In her teens, she'd tell people she had leprosy just for
the shock value, she says. Today, Bird is open about the disease but still
relies on her defiant attitude to "steel myself for the experience" of going
to the beach. "I love to swim," she says. But Bird knows that without covering
herself up in a public place, she "runs the risk of people just
rubbernecking."
"When I'm feeling forgiving, I try to ignore them," she says, "but when I'm
angry, I think 'didn't your mother teach you not to stare?'"
Bird advises others with psoriasis to find out what works best for them to
cope with the emotional effects of the disease. Going to therapy has helped
her, she says. So has leading a support group for psoriasis sufferers. "It's
important for people to work on their emotional well-being," says Bird, "however
they choose--whether it's meditation, yoga, or putting on long pants and
going out dancing."
What is Psoriasis?
Psoriasis is an inflammatory skin disease in which skin cells replicate at
an extremely rapid rate. New skin cells are produced about eight times faster
than normal--over several days instead of a month--but the rate at which old
cells slough off is unchanged. This causes cells to build up on the skin's
surface, forming thick patches, or plaques, of red sores (lesions) covered with
flaky, silvery-white dead skin cells (scales).
In psoriasis, an activated immune system triggers the skin to reproduce
every three to four days, building up on the outer layers (epidermis and
keratin). The epidermis thickens, blood flow increases and reddens the skin, and
silver-gray scales cover it.
Rarely life-threatening, at its mildest, psoriasis can be itchy and sore. At
its worst, it's painful, disfiguring, and debilitating. About two-thirds of
the people with psoriasis have a mild form of the disease, says the NPF. About
one-third have moderate or severe psoriasis. Psoriasis can affect people at
any age, but it most often strikes those between the ages of 15 and 35.
There are five forms of psoriasis. Plaque psoriasis is the most
common--affecting 4 out of 5 people who have psoriasis, says the NPF. Plaque
psoriasis
may start with small red bumps and progress to larger lesions.
The plaques of psoriasis occur most frequently on the elbows, knees, other
parts of the legs, scalp, back, face, palms, and soles of the feet. Psoriasis
can also affect the fingernails and toenails, causing pitting, discoloration,
or tissue buildup around the nails. According to the National Institute of
Arthritis and Musculoskeletal and Skin Diseases, about 15 percent of people
with psoriasis also get psoriatic arthritis, which can be progressively
disabling if untreated.
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To Fran ... Pain tips

2007-03-19 23:39:40

Dear Fran....
Since I just joined a few days ago, I haven't seen your pain tips. I
sort of searched the archives but didn't know how to do it well
enough to find them there. Is it possible for you to email them to me
at christsan@...? Thanks!
Christine Tsan

Re: [rheumatic] OT: request for help for friend diagnosed with colon cancer

2007-03-19 17:29:35

A great book by the doctor I saw in Seattle who practices at Seattle
Cancer Treatment and Wellness Center. "How to Prevent andvTreat
Cancer with Natural Medicine" by Pizzorno 9founder of Bastyr
University, Murray, Reily. Excellent complementary medicine support
for people doing conventional oncology treatments.

Any Tips for Scalp P????

2007-03-19 13:39:28

My P on my scalp is driving me nuts and nothing helps for long. All
the cortisone treatments end up some how making my P worse on the
rest of my body, some kind of rebound effect I guess. Tar overnight
with a shower cap seems to help but even that seems to stop working
after several weeks. Plus it inhibits my sleeping which is already
plagued by all my joint pain!!!
Just wondering if anyone out there has any tips or meds that worked
for them which I might not have tried. (I've tried tazorac, devonex,
some foamy cortisone thing, and a few others i can't remember the
names for).
As I often tell my hubby, if I can't get relief from the PA could I
at least get some relief from the P for a while? PLEASE? (whine
whine...-)
Thanks all.
Christine Tsan

Not quite Bosum Buddies

2007-03-19 05:00:44

Hi Everyone (and Fran in particular),
Had my first MRI today.
Thought I'd let you all know that I fitted into the 'tunnel' - just.
I seem to have the same side effects to some of the medications as
Fran. (Stop laughing Martin)
I've been having a lot of trouble with my back and the rheumy is
checking to see if there is any permanent damage so I've had an MRI
on my lower spine.
Will have to wait until I see see him on the 1st of December for the
results.
If there is any signs of damage I'm going to ask if I can try one of
the biologics.
Just thought you'd all like to know that -
1. either the MRI machines in Australia are larger than the ones in
America.
or 2. my 'effects' aren't guite as large as Fran's yet.
If you don't laugh at yourself you might as well give up - I prefer
to laugh!
love
Suzie
P.S. For any of you don't know what I'm talking about -refer to the
achives from Fran about a fortnight ago.

re:enbrel question

2007-03-18 20:23:55

hi,
when i started back on enbrel in may, my dermie started me on
2 doses 2x a week. he said the enbrel rep had just recently told
him that for tough psoriasis the double dose was more effective for
the first 3 months. it did work, and some has come back since
going back down to regular dose.
also, i got a letter from enbrel today saying that soon the doses
will come ready to shoot in 50mg vials. no more mixing,etc.
don't know about the smaller doses, have to call them.
i am glad they are coming already mixed and together.
good luck with it.
susan in ohio

Re: Liver Test

2007-03-18 15:20:20

Hi Linda
My specialist had an ultrasound done on my liver after being on the
MTX caused me to have raised liver counts. The counts were still
fairly abnormal even after I'd been off the MTX for a few months.
He wanted to see if there was any permanent damage done by the MTX.
It showed that I have a 'fatty' liver (so now I'm on a low fat diet)
He (and so did the radiologist) thought the MTX may have caused the
condition but not to be overly concerned because it is a very common
complaint. The rheumy has one too.
Hope your test shows nothing abnormal.
Just wanted to let you know that having an ultrasound done on your
liver is quite normal procedure.
I found it a lot less daunting and less painful than an MRI.
Good luck and wishing you well.
Suzie

Re: [PsoriaticArthritis] Any Tips for Scalp P????

2007-03-18 12:02:05

Christine
I can tell you what I did to make my scalp feel much better. I would take a
tube of triple antibiotic ointment and massage it on the scalp and leave it over
night the next morning I would comb it out from the roots, it was gross but all
that crap was gone for a while. That is one thing I could not stand is the
build-up. I also use a tar base shampoo called X-Sebt Pearl (Dandruff Seporrheic
Dermatitis and Psoriasis) Shampoo. I also color my hair and the peroxide cleans
it up once a month. I hope you find something to help you.
Elaine

rheumy

2007-03-18 02:41:40

I haven't posted in a while. I had basel joint surgery for my oa and carpal
tunnel at the
same time. My surgeon wanted to do the procedures before I started on enbrel.
Prior to
surgery I went off all meds, mtx (injections) and bextra (20 m). I had more
energy and
slept better than I had in 18 months (til the surgery lol). I had more pain, of
course but
not being exhausted helped me deal with it better. After surgery I was on heavy
doses of
hydrocodone but it didn't help enough. My surgeon said to take the bextra with
it. He
said it was a case of 1+1=3. He also said I could take bextra twice a day
(total of 40m) for
2 or 3 days but any longer could cause high blood pressure.
I actually was writing to tell you all about a dinner I went to on Monday night.
It was the
annual Founders Dinner for the Hospital for Joint Diseases in NYC. My rheumy, my
hero,
was getting the founders award for his work at the hospital. It was so
wonderful to see
over 500 people there to honor him for his work and to know how many people are
working to help us with this disease. My Dr. made sure his patients had the
good seats
and came over several times to check with us. Two other people at the table had
pa. I wish
you all had a rheumy like this. Everyone at the table was on enbrel and were so
positive
about it. I did my first injections on Tuesday with my husband's help since I
have a bright
blue cast on my left hand! So far the only reaction is two black and blue marks
to match
my cast! : )
Mainly though when things are at their lowest, I can look back on that evening
and
remember all the work, effort and research going on to find new solutions for pa
and have
hope for the future.
jerre
[Editor's Note: Jerre, glad to hear that you are on the mend. Thanks for the
information on the Founders Dinner at the Hospital for Joint Diseases. It
sounds as if you have a wonderful rheumy. Please feel free to post his name
here as well as list him in our Database under Recommended Doctors so that
others in the NYC area can have a suggestion if they are searching for a new
rheumy. Hope you have a speedy recovery from the surgery. Kathy F.]

Thanks Linda for info

2007-03-17 17:20:51

Oh Linda....thanks for all the info on blood sugar. I have noticed
that if he eats a little after 2 to 3 hours after a meal, he seems so
much better. Everything you said made ME feel better. I appreciate
this digest so much.
I called my GP today and he has given me samples of Effexor 75mg.
daily. Hopefully, this will help me deal with life a bit easier. I
would like to hear from anyone who takes Effexor.
Thanks again Linda....hope you are doing okay.
Susie

RE: [rheumatic] Lawsuit vs MD who prescribed FDA-approved med causing RA

2007-03-17 11:11:26

Jeff, can I ask what medication? I have a similar situation with a quinolone
antibiotic

RE: [PsoriaticArthritis] Martin....the job stealer..lol

2007-03-17 11:05:14

Dear Martin, Well I should have read this email before I sent my last email
to the group. I guess we won't get in trouble posting the tips twice in one
day..lol. I'm glad to see you saved them and we were think alike for sure
on this email. I wish I could take credit for them, but I have no idea
who wrote them, since it was signed author unknown. All I know is people
sure respond to one or all of the tips and it seems to help summarize how
they feel at times. It is hard to communicate your needs and feelings at
times when you are in pain. Sometimes when it's bad I can't even talk for
awhile. My family knows then to make sure I have things like a glass of
water, my medication and anything else I need and then they just sit with me
until the pain lets up. Having their quiet support sometimes helps more
than anything else. Believe me they aren't perfect, and we had a few
"rough times" when the pain first got bad. My husband could never
understand and still doesn't, why the doctor simply couldn't fix me. I
think he thinks of me as a car sometimes....lol. Seriously, I know it's
frustrating on his side of things since his life has had to change along
with mine. I'm sure the pressure and the worry gets to him at times as well
as me. That's why it's so important to talk about things and your feelings.
Once you get what you are worried about out, it never seems as bad as when
you held it all inside. I think my imagination is one of my biggest enemies
at times.
Anyway, I'm glad we both could help Tina and anyone else who needed the pain
tips today. Take care, Fran

Advice on hip problems

2007-03-17 02:09:10

Dear Group, Here I am writing again for more advice. I don't know what I
would do without you all.
I was wondering if anyone who has had bad hip problems had the same problems
as myself. My left thigh has been swollen on and off for over a year now I
guess, but today has to be the worst day for pain and discomfort. I'm not
sure if it has gotten worse from moving more, or dealing with the nuts who
ran the MRI place. I had to move my legs in different ways and that always
seems to make it worse.
Right now the most painful spot is in front of thigh. It's really swollen
and it's too painful to touch. Is it normal for hip pain to go all around
the upper leg? I also have the possibility that a bone spur is pressing on
a lumbar vertebrae and could be causing all of this somehow. My leg is also
really weak and at times it's all I can do to lift it in and out of the car.
(Talk about feeling old...)
Seriously though, if I stub my toe or just catch my foot on something it
feels like my hip is going to come out of the socket, but I'm sure that is
not the case. I know my hip is bad because I can't lie on that side at all.
I've been told I've had bursitis there many times before and of course have
had many injections of cortisone, but nothing has really helped at all.
Any advice or at least I would feel better if someone else had or has these
same symptoms. Thanks again for being such a great and positive and of
course, funny group. Love, Fran

Re: Insensitive Doctor &amp; Patients Bill of Rights

2007-03-17 00:53:51

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Hi Jo Ellen,
Thanks so much for the message and I feel bad about what you went
through also. I do really need to write a grievance about her to
someone. I noticed when I first went into the waiting room and had
to sign the waiting list-that her list was short and the other two
Drs. (both are getting ready to retire) :( were really long. I guess
that might be telling someone something. My Mother in law was the
one that had mentioned to go there for a GP-the one she sees wasn't
taking new patients and I was "stuck" with her. I should have
worried when she comes in the exam room and worries about her skirt
(looking at it, smoothing it down, etc.)-the length alittle on the
short side. She kept saying-"sorry Sue there really isn't anything I
can do for you now"...and I said "you could have a two years back and
my finger wouldn't be permantly bent like it is". I did tell her
that if anything comes of this please don't let it happen to anyone
else when you can get PA in one of the first stages.
Thanks again and God Bless, Susie in Michigan.

RE: [rheumatic] vioxx/celebrex article from Denise

2007-03-16 12:23:36

Lyprinol is an effective natural anti inflammatory (in Australia)

New Member, Recently Diagnosed, need some Advice...

2007-03-16 09:30:25

I know those niggles well. They're squiggly, slipperly little buggers,
aren't they ? heh heh
Crystal

RE; effexor

2007-03-16 06:29:40

http://www.anxiety-and-depression-solutions.com/effexor.htm
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/medmaster/a694020.html
http://www.crazymeds.org/effexor.html
HTH
Denise
www.Jmichaelstyle.com

Re: [PsoriaticArthritis] Newly diagnosed &amp; in shock!!

2007-03-15 18:52:14

Hi Cat and welcome,
Sorry that you have to find yourself here, looking for answers and/or advice
but if it turns out that it is P and PA you have, you have come to the right
place.
I can understand at least some of what you are feeling just now having just
been told that you could be suffering from this disease and by the sound of it
you might have had it for a while and just not realised it. If it is, I know
it will take you some time to get your head round all its implications and
you certainly want to believe that it is not P/PA but something else which can
be dealt with and then its gone.
Although I don't recognise all the symptoms you have mentioned, there are
certainly a lot of similarities too and in the area that the Psoriasis (if it is
that) has started, there won